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Post by Jules on Apr 17, 2019 12:13:31 GMT
"It's happening"
Two words from our friend Paul Sinclair are enough to set the hearts of many TFF fans worldwide alight!
Basically, it means that the long awaited box set reissue of "The Seeds of Love" will finally see the light of day, likely around the time of the actual 30th anniversary.
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Post by morgan1098 on Apr 18, 2019 15:22:54 GMT
WHAAAAAAAT??? That would mean we'd be looking at roughly a September release date. I hope Paul knows what he's talking about. I can't take any more disappointment with this box.
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Post by Jules on Aug 14, 2019 19:25:46 GMT
So I guess now that the indications are out that the box will be released this year, I figured I could spill the beans and say what I know about the set (and also collect what's already known about it).
There are 4 CDs and 1 DVD. This means that we're getting 2 CDs of entirely unreleased material (demos, outtakes, mixes and the like) but no live material at all (boo hoo) and no video material either (boo hoo). Apparently there is a rights issue with "Going to California" and the video clips and TV appearances aren't deemed important enough to justify a video DVD. I would disagree with that assumption but I also know that video elements are always an issue with box sets - they have to get authored, then approved and rated... although with the long time it's taken with this box, it would've hardly mattered! Still hope we'll get some kind of comprehensive video anthology and full (!) live sets some day...
As has already been said, Steven Wilson did NOT supply a new stereo mix for the DVD-A, so if you want to hear his work, you'll have to mix down the 5.1 to a stereo track! However there WILL be two different stereo versions of the album apparently, one being the remaster which is also on the CD, the other seemingly being a different mix by Bob Clearmountain. As you might know, Bob mixed most of the album, but in the end only "Woman in Chains" and one half of "Year of the Knife" ended up on the album - and on the a-side of the "Advice for the Young at Heart" single, while most of the other songs ended up being the TFF/Bascombe versions. Whether this also means that there are David Bascombe-mixed versions of "Woman in Chains" and the entirety of "Year of the Knife" is an interesting question, but I guess we'll find out soon.
The booklet will be similar to the SFTBC one - Paul Sinclair interviewed Roland, Curt, Oleta, Nicky, David Bascombe and probably a few others. There will also be some imagery used from the Seeds of Love book, although it will probably not be reprinted as such.
And of course, there's also a simpler 2CD deluxe edition available, and a new vinyl remaster. Not sure about the blu-ray audio but would hope so.
As for what's on discs 3 & 4, I have no clear idea about it except that "Rhythm of Life" will be on it. Given that "Badman's Song" was tried out in many different styles and arrangements (Wikipedia refers to them as being in the vein of Steely Dan, Little Feat and Barry White [!]), I'd also expect some versions of that. I'd always been curious about what happens at the end of "Standing on the Corner of the Third World" because it sounds like it's just getting started when it fades out! There's also been speculation that there might be a punkier version of "Swords and Knives" intended for the movie "Sid and Nancy", and a version of "Advice for the Young at Heart" sung by Roland before he realized Curt was severely underrepresented... but that's just speculation at this point.
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Post by mateosanboval on Aug 17, 2019 14:47:08 GMT
So much to chew on (and dream on!) here, Jules. Thanks for spilling the proverbials. I'm interested to hear both original mixes of the album side by side. Not sure that a new LP pressing will improve on the MoFi release from a few years back, but I'll keep my mind and ears open to the possibility. I'm supposing that all of the Seeds era B-sides, and non-album A-sides, will be collected here as well. I wonder how many, if any, wholly realized yet unreleased songs will appear on this? I'm thrilled that we finally might be on the verge of finding out.
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Post by Jules on Nov 20, 2019 9:10:46 GMT
Current update: "Looking positive for 2020". So, one year late, but still, my hopes are up we'll finally see this thing!
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Post by Jules on Feb 12, 2020 12:44:39 GMT
It is now supposed to come out in Autumn!
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Raoul
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Other favourite bands/musicians: Queen, Pink Floyd, The Beatles
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Post by Raoul on Feb 12, 2020 14:28:30 GMT
It is now supposed to come out in Autumn! According to whom? Sorry for being sceptical, but I just don't believe it will happen anymore.
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Post by mateosanboval on Feb 12, 2020 15:24:44 GMT
Fingers (and toes) crossed this finally comes to fruition. Thanks for the update, Jules.
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Post by Jules on Feb 25, 2020 19:48:24 GMT
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Post by Jules on Jul 4, 2020 22:14:46 GMT
Possible release date: September 4, if some online listings are to be believed!
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Young at Heart
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Favourite TFF Album: The Seeds of Love
Other favourite bands/musicians: Paul Simon, Ben Taylor, Sarah Jarosz, Tina Dico, The Beautiful South
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Post by trenthamfolk on Jul 9, 2020 9:07:27 GMT
I saw the vinyl re-issue is up for pre-order on Amazon UK this morning... this usually foretells the new slew of issues. I'm excited and hopeful!
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Post by Jules on Jul 11, 2020 23:08:47 GMT
I saw the vinyl re-issue is up for pre-order on Amazon UK this morning... this usually foretells the new slew of issues. I'm excited and hopeful! Welcome to our little secret world! Sadly, another issue (that I don't know much about) has arisen and the release was cancelled/postponed for the umpteenth time. Here's hoping this doesn't throw off the chance of still getting it out this year... You know what's frustrating? The reissue is taking longer to release than the original album itself was!
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Post by Jules on Aug 17, 2020 10:12:16 GMT
Things are popping up here and there, which means that an announcement can't be far away now!
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Post by Jules on Aug 18, 2020 22:11:45 GMT
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Post by Jules on Aug 24, 2020 10:06:52 GMT
I've now merged the two threads together. No need to hide anything now that the set is available to preorder!
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